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« on: 12 June, 2010, 12:30:27 AM »

Are there many American sitcoms you like? There arn't too many that i like although i'll happily watch the likes of Frasier, The Simpsons and the American Office.

This is proberbly my fave US 'com moment ...

Fraiser - Niles Fire
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« Reply #1 on: 12 June, 2010, 09:06:43 AM »

Well, my all-time favourite sitcom is "The Addams Family", would you ever guess... Grin

And there are many favourite moments there, from the running gag of Gomez going... "Tish... that's French..." and performing a... sexual attack on her arm Cheesy, to Uncle Fester's antics, but my absolute fave there is possibly Morticia asking a guest... "Mind if I smoke?"

A gag shamelessly stolen in "Carry on Screaming", btw, where the whole character of Fenella Fielding was a bit more than merely "inspired" by Morticia Addams...

Do You Mind If I Smoke?


Never been much into American TV comedy, though, not after puberty, at least... Wink

Some stuff I still remember with pleasure, anyway, like "The Munsters", which was indeed inferior to the Addams, but less similar than meets the eye on the surface, and I was pleasantly surprised, a few years ago, upon re-watching for the first time in over 30 years the whole "F-Troop", that its silliness was still enjoyable... well, to me at least Smiley

I'm also following a current rerun, on Fox Retro, of "Get Smart", the Mel Brooks' spy story spoof, and that's nice, too, but the line of reminiscences ends with "Gilligan's Island", also not bad but a bit repetitive perhaps.

Haven't seen much in more recent years, and generally quite casually, single episodes here and there of "Cheers" and "Night Court", quite a bit of "Seinfeld", which, to me, grows tired pretty soon, it wasn't until the quite unusual "Weeds" popped up a few years ago that I took to actually following an American sitcom again, and that I quite like, great story, great cast, something different than all the pre-digested pap...

Oh, and, sitcoms apart, among my faves there's the great early years of the "Saturday Night Live" (although I have to admit that the shows I like to watch again and again are the ones with Michael Palin, Eric Idle and Pete & Dud Wink), and I shan't forget the Mother of all Quiz-Comedy games with another of my greatest heroes, the immense Groucho Marx, with his "You Bet Your Life"...

Groucho Marx _ You bet your life -clip

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« Reply #2 on: 12 June, 2010, 02:09:59 PM »

The Munsters was a favourite of mine as a youngster and i didn't really get the Addams Family but i suspect that if they ever rerun those two shows, my choices would change around. Both shows certainally deserve a repeat run.
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« Reply #3 on: 12 June, 2010, 02:44:29 PM »

I like both The Munsters and The Addams Family but I prefer The Munsters.  I am not into too much American comedy.  It is annoying that we show theirs, but they have to remake ours.  I guess that shows a flaw on the American side.  The Simpsons obviously, and the show it was ripping off, The Flintstones.  Top Cat was another favourite. 
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« Reply #4 on: 12 June, 2010, 04:09:32 PM »

It is annoying that we show theirs, but they have to remake ours.  I guess that shows a flaw on the American side.

A sentiment widely shared around here... although SOME stuff turns out not so bad, Rogue quoted the American "Office", I remember the American version of "Little Britain" to be pretty good as well, although that's a rather different case, since the original authors and performers made it.

As for the Addams and the Munsters, I could go on for hours with trivia, right now I'll limit myself to recalling that the very first couple to be seen together in bed on American TV was that of Herman and Lily Munster, at least as live action is concerned, the absolute record belonging in fact, for a matter of just a few months earlier, to Fred and Wilma Flintstone... Grin

Now, cartoons... I wasn't even considering them, in the same way you don't consider mother's milk when thinking of food... Smiley

But I grew up with Disney, almost mandatory, and with lashings of Warner, Metro and Hanna & Barbera on top, of course.

These days I enjoy the odd Simpsons episode if it comes by, although I don't hunt for them, but I still believe the greatest cartoon of all time to be Wile E. Coyote vs. the Roadrunner, that's where philosophy and metaphysics meet abstract art AND pure and unadulterated fun, that's a candidate for a time-capsule if I ever saw one... Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: 12 June, 2010, 04:37:00 PM »

Ah, well, if we are talking cartoons then i think both Johnny Bravo and Spongebob Squarepants are both hard to beat!
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« Reply #6 on: 12 June, 2010, 06:01:47 PM »

I guess it depends on your definition of 'sitcom'.

Personally I think new British comedy is at the moment the worst it has ever been, we have nothing with longevity.  Why they have shied away from the traditional studio sitcoms I dont know.  Ever since Ricky Gervais couldnt be bothered to order a camera tripod and said 'its a new style' everyone has been copying...  we need to get back to the basics.

I like comedy that can slip into drama aswell.  Frazier is a US sitcom that I have never been able to get into, personally, I think it is over rated, but I also think that Morcambe and Wise are the LEAST funny british double act, not the most funny like everyone else says.... so what do I know?
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« Reply #7 on: 12 June, 2010, 06:38:24 PM »

Funny you should mention that... I found myself thinking, why is it that when Ade Edmondson and Rik Mayall hit each other with frying pans they get me in stitches, but when Eric Morecambe and Ernie Wise do exactly the same, they leave me utterly cold and hardly smiling at all?

Situation is indeed the keyword there, I believe...

Of course, as Ade said himself, when they ran out of kitchen implements with which to hit each other, it was over for them, as a double-act at least...
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« Reply #8 on: 12 June, 2010, 09:28:04 PM »

the whole Morcambe and Wise thing infuriates me.  Of course they got 26 million viewers, you had 2 channels to choose from.  I find Edmonson and Mayall a little too much too, to me, the episodes of Blackadder in which Mayall appears are the ones I watch least - just personal opinion of course. 
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« Reply #9 on: 12 June, 2010, 09:31:48 PM »

Thats it isn't it, comedy is so personal. My Family is apparently popular but i cannot stand it, I love Morcambe and Wise though! Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: 12 June, 2010, 09:44:21 PM »

It's a funny old world, indeed, and we should be thankful for it... Cheesy

I have a bit of a compulsion towards a "technical" view of TV and movies myself, I wanted to become a movie director when I was younger and did studies in that... er... direction, didn't happen but I still have a tendency to analyse a bit too much, at times, and you know what they say about analysing comedy being very much like dissecting a frog... not much fun to start with, and the frog dies of it... Grin
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« Reply #11 on: 13 June, 2010, 12:14:43 PM »

Ah, I nearly forgot, an American sitcom quite popular in Britain at the time was "The Phil Silvers Show", aka Sgt. Bilko.

I only "discovered" this a few years ago, I mostly still know Phil Silvers for his numerous guest-starring roles in American comedy movies (It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world for instance), and I can't say I was really on the floor laughing with the TV series, but he's very good himself, I quite liked his Carry On escapade, too.

Ah, with reference to a comment by Phil earlier, a bit of trivia...

Apparently, when doing his guest-starring in Blackadder, Rik Mayall asked the production team to have funnier and louder lines than Rowan Atkinson...

What's perhaps surprising there is that Rowan, informed of the request, graciously conceded... well, of course he knew his character would win in the long run, and Flasheart was only a temporary nuisance... Cheesy

I must admit I've always liked Ade better than Rik, but they were explosive together, while it lasted.

Pity Ade sort of drifted off afterwards, I would have thought he had more strings to his bow...

But Rik is a great performer himself, never mind if you like his rather "bulging" personality, methinks...
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